Got the v. skinny trash in faded black/grey. I have same style sz for last 7 seasons. Bought from Haven sale. The button is 4 inches from connecting. Almost like they are a girl sz large. Haven has them listed as 44cm half-waist. Same as my other pairs from past seasons which fit great. I save the web archive for items that i purchase, so i know what size to get from each vendor on their measurements in new items
Now here is the kicker. They also have the Buds. Shorts / Shorts. Copo. Serge Black Sz large listed as 44cm half-waist. I ordered a Large from Belief (cheaper than Haven) before the trash denim arrived. I was expecting the shorts to fit small like the denim. Arriving today, to my relief, they fit the same as past seasons.
I am mad at Haven, thinking they didn't actually measure the denim, but used past seasons measurements.