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#2,001 ·
crs-1 said:
Its a pretty stupid comment though saying you made a loss and then quoting what the retail price was when you bought the items.

The items you sold him obviously weren't new as he bought them second hand so retail price has nothing to do with it.

Also if you dint build the cost of the postage and the fees into the amount you said the total would be, then you cant really say you lost money through this.

The fact of if the items weren't described is completely irrelevant to your post and only you and him can sort it out, as no one else knows what you both agreed on.
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I was trying to highlight the difference in cost here, I understand that these are second hand goods but i dont think some people appreciate how much these items actually cost.. I factored in everything hence why it was so cheap, surely you would be able to see that 230 for 6 highend products is a clear bargin, which is why i sold it so cheap...
lets look at it from buyer perspective £230 that still £38.00 for each item... if that isnt cheap i dont know what is?

As mentioned before condition is always subjective and buyer did see the items on webcam before purchase.
 
#2,002 ·
valencia said:
Did you sell cashmoney a pair of batman stas only or the above items aswell?

If you said you were going to send the shoes with a box, and the shoes were meant to be 9/10 condition, and it turns out both conditions weren't met, it means you lied and he has every right to open a paypal dispute.
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valencia sorry can you please confirm as well.. i sold you a batman bape tee? was this authentic? and condition was good?

I have done alot of business with people on this forum most people that will comment i would have done business..

the fact that cash money has slandered my name and has even said the items i sold him were fake is a complete outrage.
 
#2,003 ·
GeneralAhmed1987 said:
I was trying to highlight the difference in cost here, I understand that these are second hand goods but i dont think some people appreciate how much these items actually cost.. I factored in everything hence why it was so cheap, surely you would be able to see that 230 for 6 highend products is a clear bargin, which is why i sold it so cheap...
lets look at it from buyer perspective £230 that still £38.00 for each item... if that isnt cheap i dont know what is?

As mentioned before condition is always subjective and buyer did see the items on webcam before purchase.
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Price is irrelevant because ultimately its the price you agreed to sell the items for.

You cant say its a bargain because you sold them cheaply unless you said to him "They are a bit damaged but you can have them for cheap" and he agreed to this.

I don't know what was said I am just giving you an example or where your point would apply.

Whether it should have been more because you didn't include the fees/postage is down to you and no one else and it seems mad you didn't think to include this.

If he didn't want to pay the fees/postage then you didn't have to sell to him.

The fact you think its cheap for the items doesnt mean he does, you know as well as I do some people expect unrealistic things when it comes to buying items, but this is why you should clarify all the points to begin with

(Both the seller and the buyer)

Ultimately I would say you are both wrong as a web-cam isn't the best way to show an item and he is a bit stupid for not asking for proper pics of the item he was buying.

I don't think you have scammed him but do think that his idea of quality may differ from yours and perhaps he didn't ask properly so you should both put it down to experience as ultimately it sounds like you have both lost out.
 
#2,004 ·
crs-1 said:
Price is irrelevant because ultimately its the price you agreed to sell the items for.

You cant say its a bargain because you sold them cheaply unless you said to him "They are a bit damaged but you can have them for cheap" and he agreed to this.

I don't know what was said I am just giving you an example or where your point would apply.

Whether it should have been more because you didn't include the fees/postage is down to you and no one else and it seems mad you didn't think to include this.

If he didn't want to pay the fees/postage then you didn't have to sell to him.

The fact you think its cheap for the items doesnt mean he does, you know as well as I do some people expect unrealistic things when it comes to buying items, but this is why you should clarify all the points to begin with

(Both the seller and the buyer)

Ultimately I would say you are both wrong as a web-cam isn't the best way to show an item and he is a bit stupid for not asking for proper pics of the item he was buying.

I don't think you have scammed him but do think that his idea of quality may differ from yours and perhaps he didn't ask properly so you should both put it down to experience as ultimately it sounds like you have both lost out.
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I agree with you points clive, although i think they were extremely diplomatic and "on the fence".

I did include the costs of postage as mention above.. hence why the cost were "low" (whether an individual would think its cheap or not)

Nevertheless i think it is quite clear that i have not scammed him and in this case it is the buyer's experience which let him down..

I as the seller now have bad feedback which i am not happy with.. at the end of the day i have done business with a lot of people on this forum and have been an upstanding member for 5 years and i've never had any issues like this before.
 
#2,005 ·
I refuse to do business with GeneralAhmed after selling him some items a while back and having him turn around and ask me to split the cost of CUSTOMS FEES with him.

Anyone can be a long time member of this forum. You have just been MIA for a while.
 
#2,007 ·
kemikals2005 said:
I refuse to do business with GeneralAhmed after selling him some items a while back and having him turn around and ask me to split the cost of CUSTOMS FEES with him.

Anyone can be a long time member of this forum. You have just been MIA for a while.
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thanks for your honesty.. in this case you were the seller i was the buyer..
nonetheless i enjoyed doing business with you as you did actually split the cost with me...
thanks...
and i havent been away that long i just graduated and got a job so i have been busy..
 
#2,009 ·
GeneralAhmed1987 said:
I agree with you points clive, although i think they were extremely diplomatic and "on the fence".

I did include the costs of postage as mention above.. hence why the cost were "low" (whether an individual would think its cheap or not)

Nevertheless i think it is quite clear that i have not scammed him and in this case it is the buyer's experience which let him down..

I as the seller now have bad feedback which i am not happy with.. at the end of the day i have done business with a lot of people on this forum and have been an upstanding member for 5 years and i've never had any issues like this before.
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Not sure what I can say I have never bought from you so I would just be lying if I said I had.

I am sure the feedback can be removed by an admin as there is no proof you have scammed anyone.

If anything the buyer is making himself look bad because he is just saying "They are fake" but has provided no proof to back this up.

Everything I have said is relevant to this and its not worth repeating.

I do think the mods need to do something as people shouldn't be accusing people of selling fakes but not providing any proof of this.
 
#2,010 ·
Really man, it's not even the point that people told me the were fake, you cannot seem to get over the fact that i didn't get what i paid for the shoes were supposed to be 9/10 condition(bought for collection purposes) with boxes and this is what i fucking received.

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i have tons more pics of the other shoes and more damage to them if more pics are needed then ill gladly provide them, he keeps saying that condition of the shoes is all personal opinion because he knows he sent me beat up shit Regardless if it was fake or not which he can't seem to get through his head and the fact that i got good deal on them does not men shit when he was the one who set the price in the first place, what he also didn't mention is the fact i still do not have the boxes for the shoes because he said he wouldn't send them unless i sent him more money for shipping after the fact we already made the deal, i even have a message admiring from him that he sold them so cheap because he thinks they are junk himself and just wanted them gone. Take responsibility for selling me shit.
 
#2,011 ·
Not to mention i paid for regulated shipping and one pair of shoes was sent in a shopping bag covered in packing tape, don't even know how he was able to mail it like that and the shoes were just jammed in the bag, the second package came with 2 pairs of shoes jammed in a small box with the toes creased up,another thing i didn't even mention is the fact that there is a shit load of gravel in the bottoms of the shoes as well, i can keep going on about how this sent the items and the condition of the items,it doesn't matter what i paid for them when the fact is the conditions of the sale were for 9/10 condition shoes (bought for collection purposes),boxes for the shoes, regulated shipping boxes, i never got any of that, and like i told him before yesterday whether or not they are actually fake, they still are not in the condition i paid for under the pretenses of the deal.
 
#2,012 ·
C@$h_M0ney said:
Not to mention i paid for regulated shipping and one pair of shoes was sent in a shopping bag covered in packing tape, don't even know how he was able to mail it like that and the shoes were just jammed in the bag, the second package came with 2 pairs of shoes jammed in a small box with the toes creased up,another thing i didn't even mention is the fact that there is a shit load of gravel in the bottoms of the shoes as well, i can keep going on about how the sent items and the condition of the items very inadiquit,it doesn't matter what i paid for them when the fact is the conditions of the sale were for 9/10 condition shoes (bought for collection purposes),boxes for the shoes, regulated shipping boxes, i never got any of that, and like i told him before yesterday whether or not they are actually fake, they still are not in the condition i paid for under the pretenses of the deal.
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All i asked him was for a refund so he could take his beat up crap back so i can actually buy something off someone who keeps their gear in better condition, it also does not matter who bought what off him either because it has nothing to do with this sale and from the look of the pics these are definitely not 9/10 condition, and 9/10 condition does not in anyway mean there is stains pieces of rubber missing from the heels,and the material being ripped and crack to shit.
 
#2,013 ·
He was also a very nice seller at first and one of the main reasons i went to him in particluar was the fact he was highly regarded on the site, i also told him that I myself was not sure about the fake part and that it was just word from other people and the fact that the shoes were the condition they were in was the main problem.

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i was also under the impression that real sta's don't have thread linking the logos on the back.

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& i also just want to post one picture of some of the damage done to the kawsta

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i have lots more pictures of the damage n the shoes as well as tagged pictures.
 
#2,014 ·
Pics post in the legit section like asked the logos on both pairs make it look lie they arnt legit and i have seen.owned many real pairs and the stitching was never like this as well as the star being lopsided and looks like the kaws heel star missing thread.

http://www.bapetalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=931526#post931526
 
#2,015 ·
when i told him they condition as well he told me to also wash the shoes myself if i wanted the dirt off them, seriously what kind of a seller sells dirty beat up shoes then tell the buyer to clean them himself.
 
#2,016 ·
sorry for posting yet again but another point is i still don not have the boxes its been over a month now since i paid him, and if anyone wants the e-mail he sent me saying that the boxes wouldn't be sent unless i sent more money, i think he wanted an extra $80 GPB this was to send just the boxes down after we already made a deal for the boxes to come with the shoes.
 
#2,017 ·
C@$h_M0ney said:
when i told him they condition as well he told me to also wash the shoes myself if i wanted the dirt off them, seriously what kind of a seller sells dirty beat up shoes then tell the buyer to clean them himself.
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Perhaps he doesn't want to help because you have already left him negative feedback and claimed he sold you fakes, when you clearly don't have a clue and haven't bothered to find out first.

I am not saying you are wrong to leave neg feedback but a sensible person would leave it, when all other options have been exhausted.

Its a bit silly to leave neg feedback and then expect a seller to be all peaches and cream with you, as the leaving negative feedback just winds the other party up.

Also did you not think to ask for close up pictures or wonder why he was selling you the items so cheaply?

They are 9/10 its just your opinion of 9/10 clearly differs from his opinion.

The asking you to clean them isn't a bad thing its quite possible to sort out a lot of the problems you are claiming with a little bit of cleaning.

What about the other items he sold you were they ok as you just seem to be overfocussing on the negatives and not thinking

"Hey the shoes are a bit fucked but I got a great deal on the other items"

which are possibly fine.

Without sounding like a cunt you are overreacting a bit and if this is the way you have carried on, then this may be why he doesnt want to help you.

Theres a right and a wrong way to go about things but most people shout first and think later when its too late.
 
#2,018 ·
I admit i was in the wrong and jumped the gun at first but im still getting people telling me that they are fake, and i even have an e-mail to Genamad apologizing for writing the feedback before i was 100% sure but i can also understand where he is coming from on that.

these are only the main issue 2 of the t-shirt have yellowish stains on the neck and the bats mans are just as dirty i just decided to post the pics of the main damage, cleaning them wouldn't help the material being riped and i actually did see the pics of shoes on webcam but it was a bit blurred and was to confirm these were the shoes i wanted from him, this does still not help the point that i still don't have boxes and i was mislead in the beginning, i'm just posting here courtesy of GenAmad because he asked me to, but i don't really care for the simple fact that none of this have any effect on wether pay-pal give me my money back from this guy anyway, i have the pics showing the damage, i don't have the boxes i was supposed to receive, so either way whether i got a good deal or not he is stil in the wrong for misleading information shoes that were bough for collection pusposes don't look like that, so simple don't mislead your buyer, or at least let them know what the fuck is wrong instead of writing these shoes were bought for collection when they clearly had the shit worn out of them.
 
#2,019 ·
& his reason for getting rid of them so cheep was the fact that he said he had no room for them and that he was getting to old to wear them i have all the e-mails proving that he was in the wrong anyway so like i said before i don't know why i am even bothering to discuss this here, because it has no affect whether i get my refund or any compensation what so ever.
 
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